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Mar. 18th, 2012 | 08:13 pm

(Via antisoppist)

1. Leave a comment to this post.
2. I will give you a letter (if you ask for one. Feel under no obligation to do this!).
3. Post the names of five fictional characters whose names begin with that letter, and your thoughts on each. The characters can be from books, movies, or TV shows.



1. Katarina Stratford (10 Things I Hate About You)
I watched this film at a formative age, and have wanted to grow up to be Kat Stratford ever since. (I try to ignore the fact that I am now older than her.) Intelligent, passionate, a strident feminist, deeply cynical, and a person who takes shit from no-one and terrifies those around her. I love her. (That sound you can hear at 1:09 is my heart breaking in two.) And she's based on a Shakespeare character.

2. Janna Kalderash, aka Jenny Calendar (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Oh, Jenny. I find the way she is torn between her duty to her family and her feelings interesting - she clearly wants to do what's right, but is aware that knowing what that is isn't always simple - and like the fact that she is a depiction of a member of the Romani people without being too stereotype-ridden and offensive (the depiction of her uncle, on the other hand ...). I love her relationship with Giles - how they are comfortable enough with each other to tease and debate, but clearly respect each other, and how theirs is a relationship of equals. (Jenny is much better than Giles at arranging dates.) She is the one who works out how to restore Angel's soul, and achieves this through her own intelligence and hard work (a useful role model to have when you know you don't have supernatural strength like Buffy and want a way to make the world a better place without slaying vampires).

(I just realised that Sunnydale becoming a giant crater means Jenny's grave was destroyed. Another thing for poor darling Giles to be sad about. *weeps*

3. Kareen Koudelka (Vorkosigan Saga)
I realised that if I was being all democratic about it and dropped the "Vor", I could include all of the Vorkosigans in this list. But that felt like cheating, so Kareen it is. Not that that's a hardship, as I think she's great. I am very fond of Kareen. She is genuinely kind, for one thing - as Mark notes, people like her because she wants to make them happy - but not in the slightest bit weak. Intelligent, determined, hardworking, ruthless in pursuit of what she wants; immensely sensible about her sex life and overwhelmingly sane to be able to maintain a healthy and supportive relationship with Mark. And I empathise with her wanting a committed relationship without being ready to get married.

4. Alexandra Katharine ("Kitty") Climpson (Lord Peter Wimsey novels)
Miss Climpson is a character of whom I wish we saw more. I would direct anyone who thought Sayers treated unmarried women as figures of fun (that's you, Virginia Nicholson) to her; she is, at times, a comic character, but I definitely don't have the impression that Sayers thinks that she, by virtue of being a spinster, is eminently mockable. She is resourceful, practical, intelligent (look at Strong Poison, where she manages to deduce the location of the will by putting on a mock-seance, and can then accurately memorise its contents in a hurried glance while knowing she could be walked in on at any moment); both devoutly religious and strongly moral, she is able to differentiate between following rules to the letter and doing what's right. And she is awesome without being as arrogant as Peter (much as I love him). I would definitely turn to her if I had mystery to be solved.

5. Krevlornswath of the Deathwok Clan, aka Lorne/the Host (Angel)

I am very fond of Lorne. Bringing demons together through song! Turning his back on violence for music! Not necessarily as ready to go out and fight evil as Angel, but brave and good nonetheless - a kind word for everyone, and the willingness to put his life on the line when necessary. The lack of bloodlust is appealing in comparison to the rest of the characters - yes, it's not always helpful when fighting evil, but I think reluctance to kill and do harm, even when it's needed, is valuable. His inability to cut himself off from his feelings might mean he's not as effective an evil-fighter as Angel, but allows him to remain much more human. His final scene is heartbreaking. (And this quote of his is useful when feeling depressed and scared of change: "It's like a song; now I can hold a note for a long time, actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after and the one after that, that's what makes it music". <3)

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eglantine_br

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from: eglantine_br
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
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S.omeone should write Miss Climson fic.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 10:18 pm (UTC)
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Agreed! (I think there is some on Archive Of Our Own, but there could always be more.)

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
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There ALWAYS needs to be more Miss Climpson fic!

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:01 pm (UTC)
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Kareen is so cool, I always love the Nice Ones. Have you read past ACC yet, or are you luxiariating in the afterglow of that? (It's a good point to take a break from the series.) And Miss Climpson! I think you're right about chosing her over Peter to solve your mystery.
(I read Unnatural Death, which has her intro-scene, last of all the books, so it was really wierd and fun to see her coming on for the first time.)

Letter, please? :P

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Oh, and speaking of reading past ACC, would you like me to email you a copy of Winterfair Gifts? It's the short story that follows the novel, but it's a bit hard to track down without buying short story anthologies of Vorkosigan omnibus editions.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:24 pm (UTC)
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Ooh, maybe; is it not available to read online like the rest of the series, though?

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:30 pm (UTC)
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Oh, it is. That's alright then.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:23 pm (UTC)
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Still luxuriating in the afterglow - also, putting off buying the next books (as I bought the last four at once in a frenzy, and saving money is a good thing).

Kareen is great. I like characters who are sensible and competent! And she's so nice and yet capable of being ruthless, and I think she must be an immensely strong character to be Mark's girlfriend. (I love Mark, but could not sustain a relationship with him at all, because things would just be awful.)

Yay for Miss Climpson! I adore her.

You can have an N.

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:31 pm (UTC)
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I think I'd rather be Mark's girlfriend than Miles's - but you'd have to be so immensly strong and have an exceptional sense of self to do either, I think.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:38 pm (UTC)
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Hmm, Mark v. Miles is a tricky question. Neither of them have the best mental health in the world (do any of the male main characters in the series? Gregor doesn't. Aral doesn't. Simon is surprisingly sane, as is Kou, but both are damaged by their military service in one way or the other. Possibly Ivan is the sanest), which could be problematic. In many ways I think being Miles' girlfriend would be easier - he's a lot less emotionally damaged, what with having loving and supportive parents around from the start, and by the time he's an adult his place in Vor society isn't really in any doubt. But it would be exhausting, what with the hyperactive nature and never knowing what he would do next. Also, the prospect of being Countess Vorkosigan is a definite challenge. I feel I wouldn't be strong enough to be Mark's girlfriend, because I tend to be emotionally needy and get sad easily and need lots of comfort and reassurance - although maybe Mark would find it helpful being in the role of protector? And I cannot sympathise enough with him about not liking to be shouted at, so we have that in common.

Oh god, why am I debating which fictional character I would do best in a relationship with? Must go to bed.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
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(All else aside, I am not nearly tall enough to be of interest to Miles. Mark or Gregor would be safer bets on that front.)

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:49 pm (UTC)
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LOL. Both of us rejected for Miles on height grounds. Sizeist..
I think Miles would be too exhausting to keep up with - exhilarating, but alarming. As for Aral, I always felt his self-destructive tendencies were born of specific situations, and when he was no longer in those situations - when he had a stable partnership and a job to, erm, keep him occupied, drinking himself to death - or his youthful hell-raising with Ges - weren't remotely temptations for him. Does that make sense? Of course, you'd have to start by getting to the 'stable and not self-loathing' stage...
I can't imagine myself with any of them really - certainly not Mark, Kareen is welcome to him as dearly as I love them both. Gregor, I am staying FAR away from. (You can have him!)

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 19th, 2012 01:04 pm (UTC)
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We are both only a few inches taller than Miles! We would look all suitable! Damn his fondness for tall women.

I think you're right about Aral; thirty years of marriage to Cordelia seems to have left him a lot calmer. But I'm not sure I'd be much good at dealing with him when he was drinking himself to death and being miserable. (Relatedly, I like the thought that I could go out drinking with Miles and Aral because we're all complete lightweights. Except they, being Vor, aren't overly interested in stopping when they hit their limits, whereas I am.)

What's wrong with Gregor? I mean, I wouldn't particularly want to be Empress of three planets, but he's such a darling. (I certainly can't see myself with Mark either, though.)

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helle_d

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from: helle_d
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:52 pm (UTC)
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I always find this dialogue between Kareen and Mark interesting ... and heartwarming.

"But will she do for Miles? Will she be good for him?"

Kareen cocked an eyebrow down at him. "Is anyone bothering to ask if Miles will be good for her?"

"Um . . . um . . . why not? Count's heir. Well-to-do. An Imperial Auditor, for God's sake. What more could a Vor desire?"

"I don't know, Mark. It likely depends on the Vor. I do know I'd take you and every one of the Black Gang at their most obstreperous for a hundred years before I'd let myself get locked up for a week with Miles. He . . . takes you over."

"Only if you let him." But he warmed inside with the thought that she could really, truly prefer him to the glorious Miles, and suddenly felt less hungry.

"Do you have any idea what it takes to stop him? I still remember being kids, me and my sisters, visiting Lady Cordelia with Mama, and Miles told off to keep us occupied. Which was a really cruel thing to do to a fourteen-year-old boy, but what did I know? He decided the four of us should be an all-girl precision drill team, and made us march around in the back garden of Vorkosigan House, or in the ballroom when it was raining. I think I was four." She frowned into the past. "What Miles needs is a woman who will tell him to go soak his head, or it'll be a disaster. For her, not him." After a moment, she added sapiently, "Though if for her, for him too, sooner or later."

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 19th, 2012 01:07 pm (UTC)
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It is a lovely piece of dialogue. (Also, argh, I always feel so sad for Mark being permanently insecure and unsure that anyone could ever love him. I hope that after the initial horrible shock the Koudelkas collectively take him to their heart.)

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 18th, 2012 11:25 pm (UTC)
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Not at all! Have an S.

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antisoppist

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from: antisoppist
date: Mar. 19th, 2012 11:36 am (UTC)
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I try to ignore the fact that I am now older than her
I found the birthday on which I became older than Harriet Vane ever was rather traumatic. Someone should be making special cards.

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littlered2

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from: littlered2
date: Mar. 19th, 2012 01:05 pm (UTC)
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I think there would be an excellent market.

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